Shamanic Intensive Training Course in Bolivian Andes & Amazon

topic posted Wed, July 9, 2008 - 2:49 PM by  offlineMiguel
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Sacha Runa Collective offers two Month-long Shamanic Intensive Training Courses a year
(Jan/Feb and August) in the Bolivian Andes& Amazon (www.sacharuna.com).
The course is indeed Intensive and deeply transformational.
It is intended to help train those poeple who trully want to entrust themselves to Spirit
and dedicate themselves to service.
No prerequisite is necessary, except the absolute determination to face oneself
and do what is needed to allow spirit to flow through us and bless creation.
The next one is August1-30.
Have to fly in and out of la Paz, Bolivia.
Application letters are due ASAP.
The next course is Jan/Feb 2009

For serious apprentices who intend to become full fledged shamans and
conduct medicine ceremonies, at least 4 courses are recommended but it
ultimately dependes on everybody's skills.

For a description of the course, please visit www.sacharuna.com
Blessings:
Miguel A. Kavlin
posted by:
Miguel
Bolivia
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  • warning, esp for women

    Sun, July 27, 2008 - 1:58 PM
    check out this posting by Bhudevi
    Re: Has anyone worked with Don Miguel Kavlin? This is a response to the original question. Miguel was recently in ceremony for 3 ceremonies in NC. He lied down with 2 women (separate ceremonies) after the ceremony, but while the women were still strongly affected by the medicine. I was one of those women, and while his affection helped to settle me down and work through a difficult time, I couldn't help but think that it felt strange. I could sense that if I was open to it the situation could turn sexual, and that was interesting to consider, since the altered state was just that, altered, and because I was with the Shaman, and that made me feel special. But if I had ventured that way, the next day would have been a mess, a nightmare, and would have changed my life in a negative way forever. I trusted the Shaman I had gotten to know over 4 intense days, and I needed him to comfort me, not to come on to me. Miguel left here and traveled to Oregon and Washington, knowing that he had stirred things up here, but went ahead and seduced a woman there while she was on the medicine. She was completely willing but I personally think that this is a strong mis-use of power, and no matter how consensual the other person is, the Shaman is supposed to hold the safe space, right? Consensual sex while on any medicine seems to be a contradiction to me, especially when it is the Shaman that is involved. As I have worked through this I am greatly saddened. I loved working with Miguel, we had 3 ceremonies together. I loved his music, and I admired him as a Shaman, and a man, until the last night when I was struggling and he suggested we lie down together, and I trusted him. Now I know from reading others information that use words like "womanizer" and "trantric shaman" that he is not the man that I thought I was working with. This will not bother some people, and others might decide not to work w/ him, I just think it is important to let people have all the information. Blessings
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      The Hippocratic Oath

      Thu, February 12, 2009 - 2:50 PM
      Ὄμνυμι Ἀπόλλωνα ἰητρὸν, καὶ Ἀσκληπιὸν, καὶ Ὑγείαν, καὶ Πανάκειαν, καὶ θεοὺς πάντας τε καὶ πάσας, ἵστορας ποιεύμενος, ἐπιτελέα ποιήσειν κατὰ δύναμιν καὶ κρίσιν ἐμὴν ὅρκον τόνδε καὶ ξυγγραφὴν τήνδε.
      Ἡγήσασθαι μὲν τὸν διδάξαντά με τὴν τέχνην ταύτην ἴσα γενέτῃσιν ἐμοῖσι, καὶ βίου κοινώσασθαι, καὶ χρεῶν χρηίζοντι μετάδοσιν ποιήσασθαι, καὶ γένος τὸ ἐξ ωὐτέου ἀδελφοῖς ἴσον ἐπικρινέειν ἄῤῥεσι, καὶ διδάξειν τὴν τέχνην ταύτην, ἢν χρηίζωσι μανθάνειν, ἄνευ μισθοῦ καὶ ξυγγραφῆς, παραγγελίης τε καὶ ἀκροήσιος καὶ τῆς λοιπῆς ἁπάσης μαθήσιος μετάδοσιν ποιήσασθαι υἱοῖσί τε ἐμοῖσι, καὶ τοῖσι τοῦ ἐμὲ διδάξαντος, καὶ μαθηταῖσι συγγεγραμμένοισί τε καὶ ὡρκισμένοις νόμῳ ἰητρικῷ, ἄλλῳ δὲ οὐδενί.
      Διαιτήμασί τε χρήσομαι ἐπ' ὠφελείῃ καμνόντων κατὰ δύναμιν καὶ κρίσιν ἐμὴν, ἐπὶ δηλήσει δὲ καὶ ἀδικίῃ εἴρξειν.
      Οὐ δώσω δὲ οὐδὲ φάρμακον οὐδενὶ αἰτηθεὶς θανάσιμον, οὐδὲ ὑφηγήσομαι ξυμβουλίην τοιήνδε. Ὁμοίως δὲ οὐδὲ γυναικὶ πεσσὸν φθόριον δώσω. Ἁγνῶς δὲ καὶ ὁσίως διατηρήσω βίον τὸν ἐμὸν καὶ τέχνην τὴν ἐμήν.
      Οὐ τεμέω δὲ οὐδὲ μὴν λιθιῶντας, ἐκχωρήσω δὲ ἐργάτῃσιν ἀνδράσι πρήξιος τῆσδε.
      Ἐς οἰκίας δὲ ὁκόσας ἂν ἐσίω, ἐσελεύσομαι ἐπ' ὠφελείῃ καμνόντων, ἐκτὸς ἐὼν πάσης ἀδικίης ἑκουσίης καὶ φθορίης, τῆς τε ἄλλης καὶ ἀφροδισίων ἔργων ἐπί τε γυναικείων σωμάτων καὶ ἀνδρῴων, ἐλευθέρων τε καὶ δούλων.
      Ἃ δ' ἂν ἐν θεραπείῃ ἢ ἴδω, ἢ ἀκούσω, ἢ καὶ ἄνευ θεραπηίης κατὰ βίον ἀνθρώπων, ἃ μὴ χρή ποτε ἐκλαλέεσθαι ἔξω, σιγήσομαι, ἄῤῥητα ἡγεύμενος εἶναι τὰ τοιαῦτα.
      Ὅρκον μὲν οὖν μοι τόνδε ἐπιτελέα ποιέοντι, καὶ μὴ ξυγχέοντι, εἴη ἐπαύρασθαι καὶ βίου καὶ τέχνης δοξαζομένῳ παρὰ πᾶσιν ἀνθρώποις ἐς τὸν αἰεὶ χρόνον. παραβαίνοντι δὲ καὶ ἐπιορκοῦντι, τἀναντία τουτέων.”

      “I swear by Apollo, Asclepius, Hygieia, and Panacea, and I take to witness all the gods, all the goddesses, to keep according to my ability and my judgment, the following Oath.
      To consider dear to me, as my parents, him who taught me this art; to live in common with him and, if necessary, to share my goods with him; To look upon his children as my own brothers, to teach them this art.
      I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone.
      To please no one will I prescribe a deadly drug nor give advice which may cause his death.
      Nor will I give a woman a pessary to procure abortion.
      But I will preserve the purity of my life and my arts.
      I will not cut for stone, even for patients in whom the disease is manifest; I will leave this operation to be performed by practitioners, specialists in this art.
      In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my patients, keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing and all seduction and especially from the pleasures of love with women or with men, be they free or slaves.
      All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession or in daily commerce with men, which ought not to be spread abroad, I will keep secret and will never reveal.
      If I keep this oath faithfully, may I enjoy my life and practice my art, respected by all men and in all times; but if I swerve from it or violate it, may the reverse be my lot.” edit description
      • Re: The Hippocratic Oath

        Wed, February 25, 2009 - 5:31 PM
        beautiful frame of reference, thank you
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          Re: The Hippocratic Oath

          Wed, February 25, 2009 - 6:58 PM
          de nada...
          • Su deeds' le conocerá'

            Fri, February 27, 2009 - 5:43 PM
            Lo que'

            So which is it Jane' you have personal experience of Miguel' or as you stated in other posts' you have read and worked with folks that told you this story ?
            Is this the only reason of why you come to tribes ?
            Just to "SLANDER" folks'


            La luz que usted ve brilla en usted de within' usted hace de su vida de lo que usted ve a get'
            La verdad le fijará free' fíjele libre en deed'
            Su deeds' le conocerá'
            Subsistencia que sigue el love' (broken I know' but truth non the less)

            Nganga Nobuoni +

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            • Re: Su deeds' le conocerá'

              Tue, March 17, 2009 - 7:01 PM
              what are trying to say in spanish?
              • Truth ~

                Wed, March 18, 2009 - 3:57 AM
                Hi Adam'

                It says roughly'

                The light you see shines on you from within'
                you get from life of what you see to get'
                The truth shall set you free' set you free indeed'
                By your deeds you shall be known'
                Keep tracking the love'

                Bliss

                Nobuoni +
              • to Adam

                Wed, March 18, 2009 - 10:45 AM
                sounds like a message to Miguel..........Hee, hee, I know it's to me but I think it would apply well to MIGUEL KAVLIN.
                • translation

                  Wed, March 18, 2009 - 10:47 AM
                  sucky spanish translation dude. try babelfish.com.
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: translation

                    Wed, March 18, 2009 - 12:26 PM
                    Obviousley better spanish than you speak' Jane' cos until you got the translation'

                    YOU WAS QUIETE'

                    GET A LIFE'

                    GO AWAY'

                    COME BACK AS OF WHEN THE LIFE GIVER SUN IS SHINNING THROUGH YOU'

                    YOU ARE A VERY TIRESOME LADY' WITH BIG ISSUES' AND "ATTACHMENTS"

                    May the light shine in your life and give you the healing you seek'

                    Strange of how you never speak "Truth" just skirt it'
                    The "Truth" shall set you free' then you can learn to forgive yourself'
                    Then maybe forgive others'
                    Then you can move on' in love and grace for your fellow beings'
                    Take heart sister'
                    You are loved' we love you' we wish you healing and health'
                    You are the one that is strangling yourself'
                    With your "attachments"
                    Drop the attachments and live within the kingdom given'
                    The "present" given'
                    Use it ! !
                    Love your enemy as yourself'
                    This shall make you strong'
                    For it is strength you surely seek'

                    Be well'
                    Be happy'
                    Good health'

                    Many Blessings'

                    Nobuoni +
                    • Re: translation

                      Fri, March 20, 2009 - 9:55 PM
                      oops, my bad....... I meant your Spanish sucks.
                      I don't need to go away - I have the same right to be here that you do. I don't respond to every post from you (long I might add) but couldn't resist this one - MIGUELITO THE SEXUAL PREDATOR would do good to read what you posted and maybe, just, maybe get a clue.....
                      • Re: translation

                        Sat, March 21, 2009 - 12:49 AM
                        :)))

                        May the sun shine through you and give you much strenght sister of light'

                        Many blessings and good energies to you'

                        Be well

                        Bliss

                        Nobuoni +

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