One Eyed One Legged Forest Guardians

topic posted Sun, November 20, 2005 - 6:49 PM by  Jesse
Agurrak.

I've become increasingly interested in forest guardians or plant spirits that are one eyed- it seems a common theme. I'm aware of Gimbutas' research on Old European male consorts being one eyed, phallic representative, mushroom resembling- I am curious how this carries throughout world traditions. Many diverse cultures have those in great knowledge of the forest and the magicks it contains are either one eyed, or one legged, or one armed, or all three.... It evokes a tree trunk to have one leg, or the sacrifice of an eye to gain wisdom.... Does anyone have thoughts, musings, or meditations upon this?

Odin, Osayin, Torto, Tezcatlipoca, Fachan, i believe theres a reference to a one eyed forest spirit in the Mabinogion

I appreciate this tribe- I've found the discussions quite inspiring.

Jesse
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Jesse
New York City
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    Re: One Eyed One Legged Forest Guardians

    Thu, November 24, 2005 - 9:17 AM
    It's just a hunch, but check into the legend of Gilgamesh.
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      Sat, November 26, 2005 - 12:12 PM
      Wotan of Wagner's Ring Cycle, who I guess is Odin. Somewhere I read he was a seeker of the truth and lost his eye for it. Perhaps: 2 eyes = dualistic vision of the world, so therefore 1 eye = (?). Not sure, but it's a very appealing symbol to think on.
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        Sun, November 27, 2005 - 2:03 PM
        The sacrifice of the Eye of Odin- it is so evocative of the awakening of the Third Eye of Shiva. Certainly both being Indo European cultures and the emphasis upon odd numbers in IE mythopoetic symbols.... very interesting....
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        Mon, August 13, 2007 - 9:19 PM
        Odin One-Eye. The sacrifice of an eye has often been symbolic of gaining spiritual vision. The idea is that by giving up physical vision, the eye that has past on to the spirit world can now see in the spirit world. Odin gave his eye up for many gifts, which eventually made him the head of the pantheon. The eye was only a part of his full sacrifice of himself on Yggdrasil.
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    Sun, November 27, 2005 - 8:04 AM
    The Fomoirí in Irish mythology are often depicted as one eyed, one legged and one armed. It may be related in some way to a prectice called corrguineacht -- "crane magic"-- a spell (esp. a curse), recited on one
    foot, one eye closed, one hand in belt.
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      Sun, November 27, 2005 - 2:01 PM
      I found a copy of Wilson's Ploughing the Clouds- the Search of Irish Soma- mentioned in another post.

      He discusses the Formorians at great lenth and the significance of their one eyed one leggedness being not only 'cursing' but reminiscent of the larger traditions of Soma ritual where the caretakers and givers of Soma were 'deformed'- mostly one eyed, one legged, on armed, etc.

      Further complicates it all. I conitnue to search.

      I find the one foot leads to mushroom metaphor quite easily, as well as tree imagery- the one arm hand in belt certainyl invokes a crane (Lenny- any place I could look for more information on crane magic?)- and the one eye certainly becomes a phallic allusion- or maybe a pirate (ARGH!)....

      Talking to Santeros abobut the stories surrounding Osain is bringing some cross cultural similarities to light. Guess I'll keep collecting data....

      Thanks all!
      Jesse
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        Sun, November 27, 2005 - 7:34 PM
        "(Lenny- any place I could look for more information on crane magic?)"

        I don't know much about it myself. In *the Religion of the Ancient Celts* (1911) J.A. MacCulloch suggests it was commonly used for both divination and incantation (he gives as his source Revue Celtique xii 98, xxi 156, xxii 61). MacCulloch suggests that the practice gave rise to the myths of mythological personages or divinities using the method, and of beings with one eye, one arm and one leg. It seems equally likely to me that it worked the other way though, with the draoi using the posture in imitation of the god Lugh who used it in the 2nd Battle of Magh Tured against the Fomoirí themselves. Lugh may have used it in imitation himself as a means of appropriating the might of the Fomoirí and turning it against them. The motif is repeated fractally in the story since Lugh is himself half Fomoirí and the grandson of Balor of the (single!) Baleful eye, so the combat in which Lugh kills Balor is blood turning against itself, and the manner in which Balor is killed (Lugh strikes him in the eye with a slingstone, bringing it out the back of his head and turning its magic against the Fomoirí. who are killed in great numbers) also suggests a weapon turned against its wielder. But that just brings us back to the original question of why the Fomoirí are represented as one eyed, one armed, one legged in the first place, and for that I have no answer.













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          Sat, December 10, 2005 - 3:33 AM
          I find that the Formorians, Titans, and Giants are a subject rarely looked at on a deeper level.



          Has anyone here come across them in Soul flight?
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            Mon, August 13, 2007 - 8:47 AM
            Re: Fomorians, Giants, Titans etc.

            Titans and the rest represent other races/ethnic groups in the prehistoric period. In the case of the Greeks, the struggle between the Gods and the Titans is an ancient memory of the fight in which the ancestors of the classic Greek civilization overcame the earlier inhabitants of the land of another race. In this view the gods and goddesses are the progenitors of the Greeks themselves. Battle scenes form the themes of ancient Greek art, as in the sculpted metopes of temples like at Delphi and many other sties. battle with Titans, and the Trojan war. Lady Hera smiles mildly like a Christian saint while spearing a Titan through the throat.

            In Mesoamerica the great city of Teotihuacan which had long been in ruins when the Mexica came to power in the Valley of Mexico, was attributed to 'Quinametin' - giants.
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              Re: One Eyed One Legged Forest Guardians

              Sat, September 1, 2007 - 7:51 PM
              the eye of Horus~
              one of his eyes was ripped out by Seth, the part of his body containing his soul. During the struggle Horus & Isis got it back, chased Seth out of Egypt forever, then fed it to Osiris.(who had been cut into 14 pieces by Seth & then reassembled by Isis) this brought him back to life again. this then merged their spirits~

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